[Humor] The Samsung Galaxy S8+ and Galaxy Note 8 Violate Android’s Compatibility Requirements

Over the years, hundreds of Android devices have been released. Among the dozens of manufacturers building Android phones, Samsung is one of the more prolific of the bunch. But Samsung is best known their two flagship smartphone series: the Samsung Galaxy S and the Galaxy Note line. The latest flagship offerings from Samsung include the Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8. These devices launched with Android 7.0 Nougat and 7.1 Nougat respectively, but while these smartphones are claimed to be Android Certified, they actually violate a key prerequisite of what allows them to pre-install Google apps on their devices: the Android Compatibility Definition Document.

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The Necessity of Android Compatibility

With every new release of an Android version, Google publishes a set of requirements that devices must meet in order to be considered compatible with that version of Android.

This document enumerates the requirements that must be met in order for devices to be compatible with the latest version of Android. To be considered compatible with Android, device implementations MUST meet the requirements presented in this Compatibility Definition, including any documents incorporated via reference.

The above lines preface all links to the Android Compatibility Definition Document, and clearly state that, while the Document does not include every requirement needed for a device to be considered Android-compatible, it does state that manufacturers must stay within the guidelines of the document. Furthermore, meeting these requirements is a prerequisite for any manufacturer to license Google Mobile Services (GMS).

After building an Android compatible device, consider licensing Google Mobile Services (GMS), Google’s proprietary suite of apps (Google Play, YouTube, Google Maps, Gmail, and more ) that run on top of Android. GMS is not part of the Android Open Source Project and is available only through a license with Google.

This is a huge incentive to make Android device manufacturers follow Google’s strict requirements listed in their Compatibility program. Without meeting Google’s requirements, a manufacturer cannot pre-install the Google Play Store (among many other Google applications).

Amazon is one of the few manufacturers that intentionally does not license GMS as they favor their own app ecosystem, but for every other manufacturer it’s crucial to ensure that their customers have access to the millions of apps on the Google Play Store. Hence, you can understand why it’s so important for Samsung to meet the requirements in the CDD so they can license out Google Mobile Services.

Samsung Galaxy S8+ and Galaxy Note 8 – Are they Truly Android Certified?

At XDA, we’ve been digging into the Compatibility Definition Document with every new release of the document. We poured through the document released for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and Android 7.0 Nougat, though we skipped the document for 7.1 as the changes were so minute that they weren’t worth mentioning.

For Android 8.0 Oreo, we’ve already talked about some of the changes introduced in the latest update to the Compatibility Definition Document. Some of the things we found include requirements on implementing Android Oreo’s background app limitations, optional WiFi Passpoint support, required Data Saver support, and consistent dumpsys command behavior.

Daydream View VR Headset

Daydream View VR Headset by Google

But there was one change we noticed that, at the time, didn’t seem very significant. It was a change regarding Android’s requirements to support high-performance virtual reality mode. Adding support for this feature is a requirement in order for a device to support Google’s Daydream VR. It’s actually possible to force Daydream VR compatibility on any rooted Android device if you add a few lines in the right place.

In order for a device to support Daydream VR officially, though, they have to meet the requirements laid out in the Virtual Reality section of the CDD. With the release of Android 8.0’s CDD, Google updated the document to allow for larger (up to 6.3″ screen size diagonally) devices to support high-performance VR in Android.

Source: PhoneArena’s Size Comparison Tool.

We were wondering why Google made this change, and why they went with 6.3″ specifically as their upper limit. We linked this CDD change with the recent Daydream View 2017 leak, but then something more obvious, and hilarious, came up.

We realized that the Samsung Galaxy S8+ with its 6.2″ screen and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 with its 6.3″ screen perfectly explain why Google decided to up the screen size limit in the Android 8.0 Compatibility Definition Document. Perhaps they didn’t anticipate any smartphones from their major partners to get that large initially, but the might of Samsung forced their hand so they updated the document to accommodate their biggest partner.

But there’s a problem with the Samsung Galaxy S8+ and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 supporting VR high performance mode (and yes, we verified that it does by pulling /system/etc/permissions/android.hardware.vr.high_performance.xml from the phones). While the Galaxy Note 8 launched with Daydream VR support on board, it took a software update to bring compatibility to the Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+. However, both devices did not launch with Android 8.0 Oreo.

Instead, they must meet the requirements listed in Android 7.0/7.1 Nougat’s Compatibility Definition Document in order to be considered compatible with Android and thus license Google Mobile Services (GMS). But the requirement listed in the previous release of the CDD explicitly states that the display MUST measure between 4.7″ and 6.0″ diagonal. Clearly, the Samsung Galaxy S8+ and Samsung Galaxy Note 8 are outside of these bounds, and thus they violate the terms of the CDD!

What should be done about this?

As these two devices violate the CDD, they cannot ship with the Google Play Store pre-installed. Google should protect the integrity of their Compatibility program by stripping the Samsung Galaxy S8+ and Galaxy Note 8 of all Google apps. The Samsung Galaxy S8 is cool though. You should have bought that one if you wanted to have a truly Android Certified device. Don’t blame me for your poor choice.

Galaxy S8 Lively shatterproof display screen is also not scratchproof

There appears to be to be a new craze in smartphone screens these times. And, no, we’re not referring to the shrinking bezels on smartphones. It’s the craze, or instead the consumer realization, of phones with “shatter-proof” screens make a massive sacrifice in a different division, trading scratches for longevity. That was correct with the Moto Z2 Force and appears to be to be the situation with the Samsung Galaxy S8 Lively as properly. The variance, having said that, is how the two companies appear to be managing the subject.

The real truth is that there was nothing at all genuinely new nor scandalous in the “discovery” of how effortless it was to scratch the Moto Z2 Force display screen. It’s just that we have gotten so applied to Gorilla Glass and even, at just one point, sapphire glass that we’ve come to expect our cell phone screens to often be scratch evidence.

But using glass has its possess downsides. Glass is far more rigid and breaks far more conveniently as opposed to plastic, which is far more pliable and versatile. That is why Motorola admits that its ShatterShield know-how works by using plastic-like content in get to make its shatterproof boast. Unfortunately, plastic is also conveniently scratched, from time to time even by just a fingernail.

That appears to be to also be the situation with Galaxy S8 Lively, which also statements to have a shatterproof display screen. Compared with Motorola, Samsung isn’t generating a significant deal out of that, as opposed the phone’s other rugged features. But also in contrast to its possess predecessor, the Galaxy S7 Lively, this year’s rugged model is reportedly scratching significantly way too conveniently, inside just times of use instead than months.

And also in contrast to Motorola, Samsung does not have a system in position for its shatterproof but scratchable screens. It does not appear to even recommend placing a display screen protector to wad off smudges and scratches. Possibly it will, if sufficient folks complain loud sufficient about it.

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Samsung Galaxy S8 vs LG V30 [VIDEO]

Thanks in big component to the Iphone X, employing your face to unlock your phone is about to be stylish once again. Facial area unlock is not a new attribute for smartphones. Back again in 2012, the Galaxy Nexus released with face unlock. A whole lot of Android devices however have face unlocking, but it performs a whole lot improved these days.

The Samsung Galaxy S8/ Samsung Galaxy Be aware 8 and LG V30 are new telephones that have face unlock. We by now showed you how quickly face unlock is on the V30, but how does it examine with Samsung’s implementation? We set the V30 up in opposition to the Samsung Galaxy S8 In addition to obtain out.

Speed Take a look at

First matter I wanted to do was examine the pace of face unlock. That was a person of the matters that produced aged variations of face unlock so inconvenient. If men and women are heading to swap the fingerprint scanner with face unlock, it desires to be quickly. Samsung and LG both equally have significantly less secure modes of face unlock that you can use if you are just anxious about quickness.

Equally devices can scan for your face immediately when the exhibit turns on and unlock the phone devoid of any more enter (you can help a swipe if you want). In my tests, the V30 seemed to be just a hair speedier. The V30 was more quickly in all the distinctive angles I made use of in the movie. Often the S8 was extra noticeable slower, but for the most component, they ended up pretty shut.

Security Take a look at

Up coming, I wanted to see if I could idiot the face unlock with a image of my face. The first matter I did was use a image with both equally telephones in the speedier, significantly less secure manner. I made use of the actual very same image for both equally devices. The Galaxy S8 was not fooled by the image in the significantly less secure manner, but the V30 was fooled each single time.

For the upcoming component of the check, I enabled the superior protection modes on both equally devices. As you would be expecting, the Galaxy S8 was however not fooled by the image. The V30 redeemed alone and wasn’t fooled by the image both. The superior protection manner looks to basically function.


I would take into account the overall performance by both equally telephones to be pretty very good. The pace checks ended up pretty shut with the V30 owning a slight edge. 1 significant pace reward for the V30 is a attribute that the Galaxy S8 doesn’t have. You can increase the phone in entrance of you and it will automatically wake up the screen and scan your face. The Galaxy S8 needs you to wake the phone first.

The Galaxy S8 has a slight edge when it arrives to protection. My image could not idiot the S8 even in the significantly less secure manner. That’s not to say the V30 performed poorly in this check. The significantly less secure manner was specifically as marketed: significantly less secure. Once I turned on superior protection I could not idiot it with the image. The S8 however will get the nod for getting secure in both equally modes.

So which phone wins? For me, pace is the most crucial matter, so I pick the LG V30. If you are extra anxious about protection, you might pick the Galaxy S8. Both way, you are getting a pretty great attribute. Is it as very good as Facial area ID on the Iphone X? We’ll have to check that in the future. What do you believe?

Apple iPhone X, iPhone 8 lack a key feature of the Galaxy S8

Apple presents the iPhone X as the “smartphone of the future.”

But at least in one key area, its new phones fall short of Android phones that have already been out for months.


The iPhone X has new tech like facial recognition, but not when it comes to cellular radios. 

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The iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X lack the ability to tap into a superfast wireless network technology called Gigabit LTE, confirming a CNET report from earlier this year. Meanwhile, there are 10 Android phones, including the Samsung Galaxy S8 and Galaxy Note 8, LG V30 and HTC U11, that boast the ability to reach a theoretical peak speed of 1 gigabit per second. That’s the highest speed offered by internet service providers, fast enough for you to download a two-hour movie in 15 seconds.

Apple confirmed that the new iPhones will be able to tap into LTE Advanced networks, which have a theoretical peak speed of 500 megabits per second. That’s fast, but not nearly as fast as what their Android competitors can hit.

The lack of Gigabit LTE on the new iPhones is noteworthy because the carriers are starting to trumpet the technology as a big advance that offers more speed and capacity — even if it’s not yet broadly available. When more of these advanced networks go online throughout the next year, you’ll start to see Android phones blow past iPhones when it comes to their cellular connections.

But Apple has never been at the cutting edge of networking tech, and these latest iPhones highlight the fact that the company prefers to wait for things to fully bake before embracing them.

“Apple’s not at the forefront of adopting network technology,” said Ben Bajarin, an analyst at Creative Strategies. “They’re rarely the first ones to do it.”

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Few members of the wireless industry that CNET spoke to were surprised by the move, given Apple’s track record. The company, after all, was late to the game with both 3G and LTE network technologies.

The latest iPhones do pack 27 LTE bands into a single model, making them usable virtually everywhere that LTE is available. It’s the need to reach so many people that likely has the company staying conservative.

“Apple needs to play a global game,” Bajarin said.

Apple declined to comment for this story.

Not just a turbo boost

Even if you don’t actually hit 1 gigabit per second, a Gigabit LTE network is a heck of a lot faster than anything you’re getting now. A test by Australian carrier Telstra saw real-world speeds of 100 megabits to 300 megabits per second, or about 30 times what your standard LTE signal looks like.

But there are myriad other benefits. Beyond the higher speeds, the carriers will be able handle more people on their networks — an increasing number of whom are on unlimited data plans gorging on streaming movies and video games.

Gigabit LTE is still in the early stages of getting rolled out even in the US, let alone the rest of the world. T-Mobile is the furthest ahead and boasts 300 cities with some level of Gigabit LTE.

AT&T calls its form of Gigabit LTE “5G evolution,” which is available in a rudimentary form in Austin and Indianapolis. But the company said a new iPhone and a Galaxy S8 would likely perform at the same speeds in those cities until further upgrades happen. The company plans to light up “5G evolution” upgrades in 20 more cities over the next few months.

Verizon and Sprint have held trials for Gigabit LTE.

The limited deployment of the technology means people aren’t going to care about it when purchasing their new iPhones.

But they may in a year or two. 

Better over time

Here’s the beauty of Gigabit LTE: As more networks get upgraded, your phone gets faster over time. So a Galaxy S8 or LG V30 may get decent speeds now, high speeds in a few months and crazy-fast speeds in a year or two, depending on where you live and how aggressive your carriers are with new network equipment.

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That’s a particular issue for the iPhone X, which Apple pitches as the model with loads of future tech, according to Patrick Moorhead, an analyst at Moor Insights. Given the dramatic price increase, he expects people to hang onto their phones longer, which means they’ll miss out on these speed boosts for a while.

“It’s a big miss,” he said.


The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus don’t have Gigabit LTE tech either. 

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Moorhead said he sees the carriers and phone makers getting more vocal about Gigabit LTE by the end of this year, with broader deployments next year.

Still, network technology is the stuff of geeks and tech enthusiasts, so some people may not care about how much faster the network gets as long as their episodes of “The Handmaid’s Tale” stream just fine.

“It’s a nice to have,” Bajarin said. “But it won’t move the needle.”

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Fortemedia Delivers ForteVoice(R) iS820 State-of-the-art Voice Processing to Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8+

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Samsung’s Galaxy Note 8 is hot, but not much more than the S8+ • The Register

FIRST FONDLE Samsung’s Galaxy Note 8 is everything you’d expect in a premium handset, but the stylus doesn’t appear to add huge value.

The Register was today offered the chance to get hands-on with the new phablet at its formal Australian launch.

My immediate impression was that there’s now very little distinction between a Phablet and a plus-size handset, because the device is scarcely larger than the Galaxy S8 Plus. Here’s the tale of the tape.

162.5 x 74.8 x 8.6 mm 159.5 x 73.4 x 8.1
6.3 inch 6.2 inch
195g 173g

Both devices also pack an 8MP front camera, 12MP rear snapper, Exynos 9 Octa 8895 chipset, Android Nougat, IP68 rating and a Super AMOLED screen. The Note gets 6GB of RAM, two more than the S8+, but its 3300 mAh battery is 200mAh down on the S8+’s power source.

Between those specs and the fact there’s just a millimetre or two between the devices, clearly the distinction between the Galaxy S and the Note is now trivial.

Except for one thing: the Note includes a stylus and apps that let you put it to work. I gave a couple a whirl and they did a perfectly good job of rendering my handwriting, perhaps making it a little less illegible than is usually the case. Samsung reckons it’s possible to dial phone numbers you hand-write in notes, but how to do so was not immediately apparent. Spokespeople also enthused about bringing the nostalgic experience of using a pencil into the digital world, but I could find no immediately obvious value-add from the stylus. Having said that, my handwriting was always terrible, is getting worse, and I am an utterly inept artist. Others may find the stylus gives them welcome options and opportunities.

The stylus also produced one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen in a phone.

Samsung’s demo setup included trays filled with water to show off the Note 8’s imperviousness to H2O. I removed the stylus from its slot, removed the Note 8 from the water, re-submerged it and then re-inserted the stylus under water. I expected to see a few bubbles emerge from the stylus slot and they did as I inserted it. What I did not expect was bubbles that seemed to emerge from under the Note 8’s screen the further I pushed the stylus.

The device suffered no ill-effects, so I assume this was a feature not a bug. Whether intentional or accidental, it was disconcerting.

Samsung made much of the device’s camera, now imbued with 10x optical zoom. Below is a test shot, which I think does a decent job of contrast on the plants in the foreground, picks up the pigeon-defeating wires on the wall quite well and handles the rest of the view quite well other than washing out the sky on what was a very bright Sydney morning.

Test shot on Galaxy Note S8

Sydney looking fine when shot on the Galaxy Note S8. The same image is available here as a 4.6MB .JPG, the native format and size the demo Note 8 produced.

Overall, this is a fine handset that will probably delight you. Samsung’s Launcher is now clean and consistent. The company’s own apps let you know they’re around without getting in your face. It’s a little hefty, but not clunky. Android Nougat is fast, responsive and stable.

One last thing: not one of the ten or so Note 8s on show at today’s launch ever became noticeably warmer than one would expect during a few minutes poking and prodding. Samsung seems to have left that little problem in its past! ®

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Samsung Galaxy S8 vs. Galaxy S8 Energetic: What is the distinction?

Which model of the Galaxy S8 is the a single to purchase?

Samsung has ongoing the trend of releasing an “Energetic” model of its latest mass-current market flagship a handful of months afterwards, and the Galaxy S8 Energetic is the minimum compromised Energetic model yet. It luckily shares a broad the greater part of the elements, attributes and working experience with a common Galaxy S8 — and that’s a definite marketing place when compared to the rest of the rugged cellular phone current market.

So how does the Galaxy S8 Energetic evaluate to its common counterpart? We’re listed here to lay out all of the distinctions, huge and smaller.

What is the identical

As we went into depth on in our complete Galaxy S8 Energetic review, a single of the greatest attributes of the cellular phone is that it behaves and performs like the common Galaxy S8 in just about each individual way. It is created on the correct identical system of specs, with the identical correct software program attributes and components elements. You would not detect a distinction in day by day use no matter which a single you select up, and that’s superb.

In day by day use, these phones are equivalent.

The Galaxy S8 has its fans and its skeptics, but the basic emotion on the cellular phone is that it truly is speedy and tremendous-able in terms of the uncooked quantity of software program attributes it presents. Staying an AT&T-distinctive cellular phone (for now) you will have to offer with some additional bloatware and smaller superfluous software program modifications, but you get that on an AT&T-branded Galaxy S8 as well. The camera carries on to accomplish with the greatest in the sector, with a fantastic regularity you really don’t generally get even in substantial-finish phones.

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A Snapdragon 835 processor is nonetheless the major of the line, and 4GB of RAM is far more than plenty of. 64GB of storage remains on the Energetic, and you continue to keep an SD card slot as well. In spite of the rugged exterior you really don’t have to offer with any added flaps or port coverings, either — you even continue to keep the 3.5 mm headphone jack. Its thick back again circumstance nonetheless offers you wireless charging as well. Even however it truly is far more actively styled the GS8 Energetic has the identical IP68 water and dust resistance, but that’s nonetheless the common we can realistically expect on mass-current market phones.

What is various

You can possibly guess that the greatest distinction listed here is the external components style and design. The GS8 Energetic is indeed incredibly rugged, and not in the way a common GS8 can be challenging with the addition of a huge circumstance — there’s an additional bit of protection about knowing that the exterior rubber and challenging plastic is portion of the cellular phone. There are huge bumpers on the corners, notable additional thickness throughout, a housing surrounding the camera and a challenging plastic textured back again that’s less difficult to maintain on to and so substantially far more resilient than glass.

The GS8 Energetic seems like it can just take a fall with out fear — and it really can.

That, of course, suggests that the Galaxy S8 Energetic is also substantially much larger and all-around more durable to use in a single hand than the really svelte common model. A Galaxy S8 steps up at 148.9 x 68.1 x 8 mm and 155 g. The Energetic? 151.89 x 74.93 x 9.91 mm, 208.09 g. Those people are huge change, significantly in width, thickness and of course pounds. The Energetic is significantly more durable to wrap your hand around, and even however the casing helps make you far more self-confident in its robustness it truly is also a bit more durable to maneuver becoming 34% heavier than the GS8.

Finishing the rugged streak of the GS8 Energetic is its screen. It is the identical fantastic Tremendous AMOLED panel as in advance of, but now it truly is totally flat with flat glass to match. That absolutely improves the ergonomics of the cellular phone, reducing accidental palm touches, but all of that usability is washed absent by the additional thickness and width. The screen is shatter-resistant, which is a assert not built on the common GS8 and that’s mainly because the Energetic has a unique plastic coating more than its common Gorilla Glass 5. The coating helps make sure the display screen would not shatter even when dropped from five feet, but the draw back is the plastic is radically far more susceptible to smaller every day scratches (certainly, like the Moto Z2 Drive). Thinking of the quantity of people today we see strolling around with shattered screens it would seem like they’d just take that trade-off, but not absolutely everyone will want it.

Now, a pure and straightforward advantage of the Galaxy S8 Energetic: a much larger battery. And not just a very little much larger, a entire 1000mAh much larger — totaling 4000mAh, and earning sure you actually really don’t have to fear about battery lifetime on this point. Whilst the Galaxy S8 experienced to strike a harmony in terms of dimension, pounds and battery lifetime, only earning it a day with normal use, the Energetic can absolutely just take on a heavy day with out complaining and depart you with some battery left more than at the finish of the day. It is a single of the major causes people today are even considering the GS8 Energetic, and it is absolutely a major advancement.

Which should really you purchase?

Galaxy S8 Active vs. Galaxy S8

Understanding absolutely nothing about a person’s unique use wants, if someone asks me which model to purchase I am going to immediately say, “get the normal Galaxy S8.” In spite of the significant advancement in battery lifetime on the Energetic, the common Galaxy S8 presents a substantially far more well-rounded strategy that is applicable to the widest quantity of people today. It is gorgeous, compact, straightforward to maintain and genuinely feels like a substantial-finish cellular phone worthy of the price tag tag. It is also substantially significantly less high-priced, in the array of $150-200 significantly less at this place — that’s some major dollars.

But if you have to have to have a “rugged” cellular phone and know for a fact that your Galaxy S8 will finish up spending 100% of its lifetime bolted into a significantly heavy-obligation circumstance, there’s rationale to contemplate acquiring the Galaxy S8 Energetic from the start out. Assuming that the price tag distinction isn’t really a huge concern for you, the GS8 Energetic offers you the comprehensive day by day working experience of a Galaxy S8 with out the fear of cracking glass on each sides of the cellular phone. You’ll have to offer with significant added pounds and some relaxed scratches on the display screen protector, but in return you get significant battery lifetime — that could be a calculation that operates out for some people today.

Samsung Galaxy S8 vs. Galaxy S8 Lively

The “Galaxy S” quality loved ones of smartphones has acquired the initially “Active” edition for the Galaxy S4. Given that them, all adrenaline enthusiasts who stay a hazardous existence and want to get a flagship with them in their adventures have waited patiently for a new “Active” technology and this 12 months, they have the chance to purchase the Galaxy S8 Lively. What’s the distinction amongst the usual Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8 Lively?

1st of all, we have to mention that in conditions of components, these two equipment are nearly identical. They have in frequent a 5.8-inch Super AMOLED usually on exhibit supporting a resolution of 1440 x 2960 pixels a Qualcomm MSM8998 Snapdragon 835 chipset driven by an octa-main (4×2.35 GHz Kryo & 4×1.9 GHz Kryo) processor backed by an Adreno 540 GPU and 4GB of RAM 64GB of internal storage (expandable) a rear digicam with a resolution of 12MP (OIS, LED flash, stage detection autofocus) and a entrance digicam of 8MP wi-fi charging a 3.5mm headphone jack and IP68 water and dust resistance.


The largest distinction amongst them is the external structure. Even though the Galaxy S8 applied the very same glass back with a slender metal frame, similarly the previous two models, the Lively edition is rugged and has huge bumpers on the corners, for further safety in scenario of drops. As a result, their proportions are absolutely diverse, as the Galaxy S8 steps 148.9×68.1×8 mm and weights 155 grams, the Lively steps151.89×74.93×9.91 mm and it’s about 50 grams heavier.

Also, the Lively has a flat display screen which eliminates accidental palm touches and it’s shatter-resistant. In addition, there’s yet another benefit for the Active’s house owners, as they get a bigger battery (4000mAh vs 3000mAh), which will past substantially lengthier and will allow them to get a good deal of pictures or document video clips even though driving their bikes, browsing, or climbing mountains.