Google’s Differential Privacy May be Better Than Apple’s

As it turns out, Google’s version of differential privacy may be more private than Apple’s implementation. Writing for Wired, Andy Greenberg talks about differential privacy. Specifically, about a study [PDF] that examines how Apple uses differential privacy in macOS and iOS. The researchers found that it might not be as private as Apple would have us believe.

Differential Privacy

Differential privacy is a relatively new field in data science. It involves inserting random noise into a dataset, such as an iPhone user’s personal information. After the noise is added, the data is uploaded to Apple’s servers. This way, Apple can have its cake and eat it too. It can perform machine learning and collect analytics while maintaining your privacy. Thanks to the noise, the data can’t be matched to your user ID. Or can it?

Differential Privacy Loss

A group of researchers say they have reverse engineered Apple’s differential privacy. They examined to code to find out how the software inserts the random noise. The effectiveness of it is measured by a variable called the “privacy loss parameter” or “epsilon.” The epsilon determines how private your data is kept.

In short, the higher the epsilon value, the less private the data is. The researchers found that macOS uploads more data than what is generally considered “private.” And iOS 10 uploads more data that is more specific and less private.

Image of mouse pointer clicking on a security button. Apple's differential privacy might be less private than we think.


Apple points out that its data collection is opt-in, although it nudges users to opt-in during a device setup. And the company also says that it adds different levels of noise depending on the data. For example, emoji usage doesn’t need to be as secret as browsing history or health data.

The study found that macOS differential privacy has an epsilon value of 6, while iOS 10 had an epsilon value of 14. A beta version of iOS 11 (version unknown) even had an epsilon value of 43, although that might change once the final version is released. Frank McSherry, co-inventor of differential privacy, explains what a value of 14 means:

Say someone has told their phone’s health app they have a one-in-a-million medical condition, and their phone uploads that data to the phone’s creator on a daily basis, using differential privacy with an epsilon of 14. After one upload obfuscated with an injection of random data, the company’s data analysts would be able to figure out with 50 percent certainty whether the person had the condition. After two days of uploads, the analysts would know about that medical condition with virtually 100 percent certainty.

Google’s Version

Google uses its own version of differential privacy called Randomized Aggregatable Privacy-Preserving Ordinal Response (RAPPOR). Google’s analysis [PDF] claims to maintain an epsilon value of 2 for particular data that is uploaded. The upper limit is epsilon 8-9 over the lifetime of the user.

In theory, this is better than Apple’s differential privacy. Additionally, Google made RAPPOR open source. In contrast, Apple keeps its code and epsilon values secret. If Google changed the code or accepted epsilon values, researchers would know about it. Meanwhile, the team had to reverse-engineer Apple’s code over six months.

Generic image of unlocking an iPhone. Apple's differential privacy could be less private than we think.

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Now here’s where I disagree. Frank McSherry argues that Apple shouldn’t be judged too harshly, saying “It’s a bit like agreeing to the Paris Climate Accords and then realizing you’re a megapolluter and way over your limits. It’s still an interesting and probably good first step.”

We should give credit where credit is due. If a company like Apple does something good, we should pat it on the back. But that shouldn’t mean kid glove treatment. As I wrote back in June, Apple is pushing privacy as a feature. Tim Cook is quick to criticize Google and Facebook for their data mining efforts:

“They’re gobbling up everything they can learn about you and trying to monetise it. We think that’s wrong. And it’s not the kind of company that Apple wants to be.”

I think that if Apple really wants to be a privacy-forward company, they should be more transparent about its technology. In this case, differential privacy. Apple famously let its machining learning researchers start publishing. Now it’s time for the security team to do the same.

Apple, if you’re going to sell privacy as a feature, you can’t be ambivalent about it. There’s no such thing as being open about certain things while being secret about the rest.  Open-sourcing security code like differential privacy and encryption would go a long way towards living up to your stance. As companies get hacked left and right, it’s time to reassure users as well as security experts that you really do have our backs.

Apple’s iPhone X and iPhone 8 Finally Come Into View

Needless to say, it was a very big week for Apple.

On Tuesday, the company kicked off the first event at its new headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. to show off all-new iPhones, a new Apple Watch, and a refreshed Apple TV. And since then, more details have emerged about Apple’s latest innovations.

Read on for our look at the biggest Apple news of the week, headlined, of course, by the new iPhone X.

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  1. Three new iPhones headlined Apple’s event. At the top of the food chain is the new iPhone X, featuring a glass and stainless steel design, and a 5.8-inch screen that nearly covers its face. The iPhone X also comes with wireless charging and is the first to offer Face ID, a new technology that verifies users’ identities by scanning their faces before letting them into the phone.
  2. Apple also unveiled smaller upgrades to last year’s iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus called the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus. The new devices come with glass designs, wireless charging, and improved cameras. They also have fingerprint sensors that are unavailable in the iPhone X, along with smaller screens that measure 4.7 inches and 5.5 inches, respectively.
  3. As expected, the Apple Watch Series 3 made an appearance at the Tuesday’s event. The smartwatch looks nearly identical to last year’s Series 2, but it is the first from Apple (aapl) to come with cellular connectivity. The feature means users will be able to leave their iPhones at home and still be able to take and place calls via their Apple Watches. Apps running on Apple Watch Series 3 can also take advantage of a LTE connection and work when untethered from an iPhone.
  4. The Apple TV set-top box that users connect to their televisions is also getting an update in the form of the Apple TV 4K. The set-top box now works with 4K video content, allowing users to enjoy ultra-high-definition movies and television shows. It also has a more powerful processor so that it can play more data-intensive video games and other apps that can otherwise cause the images to stutter.
  5. Since its iPhones are now compatible with wireless charging, and its Apple Watch Series 3 is, as well, Apple gave a sneak peek of a new wireless charging pad that it’s working on. AirPower will charge up to three devices at once, and work with iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X, Apple Watch Series 3, and Apple’s AirPods.
  6. Although the iPhone X starts at $999, Apple isn’t offering any discounts on its AppleCare+ warranty program for the device. The iPhone X’s warranty will cost $199 and give customers the same two years of hardware repair and technical support as is available for other devices. The iPhone 8’s plan, meanwhile, costs $129.
  7. In a surprising move, Apple quietly raised the price on its iPad Pro tablets by $50 following its Apple event. The move came despite Apple adding no new features to the devices. The 10.5-inch iPad Pro now starts at $799 and the 12.9-inch iPad Pro starts at $929.
  8. Looking for the best time to get a deal on Apple’s new iPhones? Deal-tracking site Best Black Friday has predicted that Black Friday—the day after Thanksgiving—may be best time, and that retailers may offer free gift cards with iPhone purchases.

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Apple’s ‘differential privacy’ still collects too much specific data, study says


Apple’s use of “differential privacy” — a method that inserts random noise into data as it’s collected en masse — doesn’t go far enough to protect personal information, a study suggested this week.

Apple’s “privacy loss parameters” still allow too much specific data to slip through, according to the study (PDF link), highlighted by Wired and published by five researchers from the University of Southern California, Indiana University, and Tsinghua University. While both macOS and iOS 10 are said to have issues, the latter platform is believed to be the more problematic one.

Another concern is that Apple keeps its loss parameter — also known as its epsilon — secret, which means that the company could be changing it on the fly without any outside scrutiny.

“Apple’s privacy loss parameters exceed the levels typically considered acceptable by the differential privacy research community,” said USC professor Aleksandra Korolova.

macOS is said to have an epsilon of 6, while iOS 10 sits at 14. By comparison, Google claims the differential privacy system in Chrome has an epsilon of 2 in most cases, and a lifetime ceiling of 8 to 9. Google also open-sources related code, making it possible to doublecheck.

In response to the study, Apple said it disagrees with many points, such as to what degree it can correlate data with a particular person. The company insisted that it varies noise based on the type of data, and that the researchers simply combined epsilons for all types on the assumption it could be pieced together.

It also pointed to policies like time limits on data storage, the rejection of IP addresses, and the decision to make collection opt-in — referring to installation and setup screens where people can choose whether or not to share usage and diagnostics information.

The study found that the iOS 11 beta had an epsilon of 43, but that’s likely because of normal testing designed to weed out bugs before the software’s Sept. 19 launch.

What you should know about privacy and Apple’s FaceID on iOS 11

During and after yesterday’s Apple announcement of its FaceID unlocking feature for its new iPhone X, some brief discourse began on the Ars #staff Slack channel concerning legal rights when your face is your new passcode. It’s a big deal, as this is the future of smartphone unlocking—largely because Apple says so.

“This is the future of how we’ll unlock our smartphones and protect our sensitive information,” Apple VP Phil Schiller said.

So let’s start off with one fear an Ars colleague brought up. He suggested that the cops could take your phone and hold it up to your face to unlock it. Presumably, a mugger or nefarious actor could do the same thing.

But remember the Supreme Court is on your side, at least when it comes to the authorities searching your phone. In 2014, the high court ruled that the authorities need a warrant to search your phone incident to an arrest. It’s probably one of the biggest privacy decisions for the digital age.

“Prior to the digital age, people did not typically carry a cache of sensitive personal information with them as they went about their day. Now, it is the person who is not carrying a cellphone, with all that it contains, who is the exception,” the court ruled.

This right to privacy isn’t the same when it comes to being at the US border, however. A quirk in the law allows authorities at the border to search your phone without a probable cause warrant. The law doesn’t care about the method by which the phone is locked, either.

Before we get into the obvious questions about the Fifth Amendment implications for refusing to unlock your phone when ordered, it should be noted that Apple has instituted some new privacy features for iOS 11, which rolls out next week. Let’s assume you unlock your phone for the authorities, whether they have a warrant or not. If you have TouchID enabled on a non-iPhone X phone, the passcode is now required when the phone is connected to a new computer. “Trust This Computer” pops up on the computer’s monitor, requiring the password. That wasn’t the case before. This means the authorities would need your passcode again to siphon data from your phone beyond just reading its contents manually.

One researcher who has written about this suspects the same will apply to the iPhone X and its FaceID—that a passcode will be required when connecting it to a new computer.

Nicholas Weaver, a computer scientist at the International Computer Science Institute in Berkeley, California, told Ars in an e-mail that “There is no way I could see Apple making FaceID bypass the iOS-11 passcode needed to trust this computer change.”

Apple did not immediately respond for comment.


To be sure, there are all types of technological reasons to fear FaceID, just like a fingerprint scanner. Spoofing is probably among the biggest concerns. Apple’s TouchID has been spoofed with a fake fingerprint. And it’s only a matter of time before FaceID is fooled, too.

Technological concerns aside, let’s address the hot-button topic about what happens if you refuse to unlock your phone. This has been an ongoing topic here at Ars. And it’s headed to the Supreme Court.

So are Fifth Amendment rights any different depending on whether a device is locked via a passcode, a fingerprint, or your face?

For starters, the cops don’t see any difference.

There’s a man imprisoned for two years now for refusing to abide by a court order to unlock his passcode-protected hard drives. Last week, the child-porn suspect, named Francis Rawls, lost his bid to be released pending his appeal to the Supreme Court, which has never ruled on whether forcing someone to unlock hardware amounts to a Fifth Amendment breach of the right to be free from compelled self-incrimination.

One positive ruling on the issue has come, however. A federal appeals court in 2012 declared that forcing somebody to decrypt a passcode-protected device was a constitutional violation.

But privacy seems to be losing in these decryption cases. Last year, for example, we brought news that federal prosecutors in Los Angeles were successful in getting judicial approval to force two people, who were inside their California homes, to press their fingerprints on a seized smartphone in a bid to unlock them.

Compelled decryption

But even civil rights activists acknowledge there might be a legal distinction between being compelled to state what is in your mind compared to being forced to use one’s body to unlock a device.

In the Rawls child-porn case, the Electronic Frontier Foundation said (PDF) that “compelled decryption is inherently testimonial because it compels a suspect to use the contents of their mind to translate unintelligible evidence into a form that can be used against them. The Fifth Amendment provides an absolute privilege against such self-incriminating compelled decryption.”

Matthew Segal, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Massachusetts, said in a telephone interview that he believes an argument could be made that forced decryption is a Fifth Amendment violation no matter what. “Compelling somebody to decrypt something, whether it’s with their thumbprint, or their face, or with a passcode, is asking them to translate scrambled data,” he said. The act of decrypting a device, he added, is “rearranging data to be intelligible to the computer.”

One of the first to raise the issue that biometric-protected devices bring fewer Fifth Amendment protections over passcodes was Marcia Hofmann, a San Francisco lawyer and formerly of the EFF. When TouchID came out four years ago, she said:

But a communication is “testimonial” only when it reveals the contents of your mind. We can’t invoke the privilege against self-incrimination to prevent the government from collecting biometrics like fingerprints, DNA samples, or voice exemplars. Why? Because the courts have decided that this evidence doesn’t reveal anything you know. It’s not testimonial.

Your face is no different.

Apple’s Craig Federighi: Uncertainty About Face ID Will ‘Melt Away’ Once People Get iPhone X

Apple software engineering chief Craig Federighi today joined Daring Fireball‘s John Gruber on an episode of The Talk Show, where he likened uncertainties over Face ID to the concerns that customers expressed when Touch ID first launched in 2013 in the iPhone 5s.

Honestly, we’re just all counting the days that customers can finally get their hands on these. Because I think just like with Touch ID, initially people thought oh, ‘Apple’s done something that’s totally not going to work and I’m not a believer and I’m not gonna use this feature.’

Now everyone’s worried because they can’t imagine life without Touch ID. We’re going to see exactly the same thing with Face ID.

In a discussion that revisited the on-stage gaffe that saw Face ID fail to authenticate his face during Tuesday’s event, Federighi said he was shocked when it happened because the feature normally “just works.” He went on to say he understands the uncertainty, but that it will “melt away” once people experience the product. “You don’t even think about it,” he said.

Federighi went on to say that as much as Apple loves Touch ID, Face ID is “that much better.” He confirmed that Apple believes Face ID is the future of biometric authentication, with the caveat that there are settings where different biometric techniques or combinations of biometrics could make sense.

Much of the rest of the discussion covered the same topics that were discussed in Federighi’s earlier interview with TechCrunch. Federighi reiterated that most sunglasses work with Face ID, aside from some that have coatings that block infrared. One way around that, he says, is to turn off the “attention aware” feature that requires eye contact for Face ID to unlock.

He also explained why users need to swipe to get past the lock screen of the iPhone X, rather than it opening directly with a facial scan – it’s so you can still glimpse at the time, check your notifications, or get to the flashlight without the iPhone opening up to the Home screen. The swipe and scan are simultaneous with no real waiting period or delay.

One last little tidbit — with the feature that allows you to disable Face ID temporarily by pressing the side button and the volume buttons, it also takes a screenshot because the gestures are the same. Apple’s looking into fixing that by deleting the screenshot when a press and hold gesture is detected.

Federighi’s full interview with John Gruber can be listened to on The Talk Show.

Analysts are wrong about Apple’s new iPhone X

CNBC’s Jim Cramer is convinced that analysts who weren’t thrilled about Apple’s new iPhone release are missing something, and it may have something to do with age.

“I think one of the reasons why there was so little ‘Wow, got to have it’ about the new iPhone, at least among the analyst community, is that the analysts themselves might be too old to get their heads around the way younger people see these products. When new technology comes out, millennials, who tend to be too young to be senior analysts, are far more likely to figure out how to use them and how to adapt to them,” the “Mad Money” host said.

Analyst reports from Credit Suisse, Canaccord Genuity, JPMorgan and Piper Jaffray were tepid, saying the product launch met expectations, while KeyBanc analysts were “disappointed” with the iPhone X.

But Cramer argued that younger people are likely to create buzz around new product features, download key apps and use the phones to engage with and document the experiential economy.

“If you’re a baby boomer like me, then the best way to figure out what’s happening or what’s going to happen, especially when it comes to this kind of technology, is to watch what your own kids are doing,” Cramer said.

For example, last week, Cramer’s eldest daughter introduced him to Pokemon Go, a new mobile iteration of Niantic’s hugely popular Pokemon game franchise.

The “Mad Money” host noticed three things when he played the game: first, it was a lot of fun. Second, it used a lot of the iPhone’s battery. Third, it had a simple concept, reminding Cramer of games he used to play growing up.

“Playing Pokemon Go, I suddenly could envision a game that could talk to you in high resolution [and] allow you to communicate with others in real time with much more clever augmented realities. Those are not yet available, but these phones are coming closer and closer, and I want to see very much what the iPhone X can do along these lines,” he said. “I know my kids will tell me much earlier than I will know myself.”

Cramer’s other daughter went on a cruise, to his surprise. While he is bullish on the cruise ship industry, he did not expect someone in her 20s to want to go on a cruise.

But the cruise had a millennial draw: It was themed around electronic dance music, or EDM.

“Cruises are fun, I get that,” Cramer said. “More important, though, an EDM cruise is a chance to brand yourself via Instagram.”

Boasting better cameras and resolution with nearly every model, iPhones help young people capture their experiences, Cramer said. The more photogenic the event, the better the photos, and the better the device, the more incentive millennials have to document their experiences.

“You think any of these post-50-year-old analysts get that?” Cramer said. “They don’t see anything new because they don’t understand how 20-somethings use technology to brand or even re-brand themselves. They don’t understand silly games. They see everything as incremental. Younger people see everything as the ability to explore the seemingly un-explorable or re-create themselves to friends in a setting that’s as compelling as a big-screen movie.”

That’s why some analysts wrote off the new iPhone as another “expected” move by Apple, Cramer said — they didn’t realize that higher resolution, better battery life and improved photos would make the $999 special-edition phone worth the cost to younger buyers.

“One device can do hundreds of things that Wall Street analysts would never want to do or know about,” Cramer said. “That’s why it’s ‘Blah, blah, blah’ instead of ‘Wow.’ That’s why these analysts think the stock should be traded. And that’s why they’re wrong.”

Apple’s Face ID prompts security and privacy concerns from US Senate

Apple yesterday unveiled its new Face ID biometric technology and while the company spent a considerable amount of time talking about the security of the feature, some people are already showing doubt.

As noted by Recode, United States Senator Al Franken is pressing Apple to offer more detail on privacy and security safeguards….

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In a detailed and thorough letter sent directly to Tim Cook, Franken expressed his concern that Apple could use the faceprints it collects from Face ID to benefit other aspects of its business or to aid in law enforcement requests.

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Apple itself could use the data to benefit other sectors of its business, sell it to third parties for surveillance purposes, or receive law enforcement requests to access it facial recognition system – eventual uses that may not be contemplated by Apple customers.

The senator, who is the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Privacy, Technology and the Law, outlined a total of ten questions he has about Face ID. The questions range from concerns about security to concerns about diversity. For instance, the third question reads:

What steps did Apple take to ensure its system was trained on a diverse set of faces, in terms of race, gender, and age? How is Apple protecting against racial, gender, or age bias in Face ID?

Franken also seems cornered about how Apple tested Face ID, asking where the 1 billion images it used to build Face ID came from.

Many of the concerns center around privacy, however, with Franken asking if Apple has implemented safeguards for when someone tries to trick Face ID:

Have safeguards has Apple implemented to prevent the unlocking of the iPhone X when an individual other than the owner of the device holds it up to the owner’s face?

When Phil Schiller unveiled Face ID, he touted that it’s more secure than Touch ID with Apple’s testing showing that there’s a much higher chance of someone matching fingerprints than face frame.

Apple has yet to respond to Franken’s letter, which can be viewed in full here. It’s unclear when or if Tim Cook will respond.

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Disney Is the Only Major Hollywood Studio Not Backing Apple’s Plan to Sell 4K Films at $20

Apple yesterday revealed the Apple TV 4K, a new set-top box that will bring all the features of the fourth-generation Apple TV, along with the ability to stream 4K HDR video content. This includes iTunes 4K movies, which the company confirmed will be sold for the same price as HD movies at $20 apiece. Users will even be able to gain access to 4K movies they’ve already purchased in HD at no extra charge.

When it made this announcement, Apple showed off a list of Hollywood studios during the keynote that will support 4K movies on iTunes at this price: 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Paramount, Sony, Warner Bros., and Universal Pictures. In a new report today, The Wall Street Journal noted that the major absence among this list is Disney.

The one absence from Apple’s list of big studios selling movies in UHD is Disney. It wasn’t immediately clear why the company behind Star Wars and Marvel couldn’t reach an arrangement with Apple. It currently sells its films in 4K on other digital stores, such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc.‘s Vudu, for $24.99.

Disney’s absence is particularly notable given a longstanding close relationship between the two companies. Disney Chief Executive Robert Iger is on Apple’s board of directors and Disney was the first studio to sell television shows and movies on iTunes.

Apple is said to have made deals with these studios so that 4K films would not rise above $20, but a few weeks ago it was reported that some studios were vying for $25-$30 for each 4K movie on iTunes. It isn’t currently clear why Disney films — which include Marvel and Star Wars — won’t be available in 4K on iTunes, but the WSJ pointed out that Disney currently sells its films in 4K on apps like Vudu, but at a higher price of $24.99. If talks fell through with Apple, that price tag is likely the reason why.

Apple’s negotiations with participating studios reportedly went down to the wire, ending just weeks ahead of the September 12 reveal of the Apple TV 4K. Some studios are also said to still be interested in offering movies on platforms like iTunes just weeks after they debut in theaters, suggesting time frames and prices like 17 days after a theatrical debut for $50, or four to six weeks from release for $30. These talks are still ongoing and it remains to be seen if Apple and iTunes would ultimately take part in such a feature.

Iphone X vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Apple’s new hero towards this year’s most effective mobile phone

The Iphone X is here, and it’s all-transform for Apple, with the most recent flagship sporting a wholly new style and design, a enormous screen, vastly enhanced specs and a lot of new capabilities.

It is set to be a killer mobile phone in other terms, but the Iphone X is not the initially extraordinary handset to land this 12 months, as the monstrous Samsung Galaxy S8 has experienced a big head-commence.

That too has a large screen, a wonderful style and design and masses of high-tech capabilities – so just how do these two telephones examine? To remedy that we have put them head to head across a assortment of classes.

Iphone X vs Samsung Galaxy S8 style and design

The Iphone X has rather a good deal in frequent with the Samsung Galaxy S8 from a style and design standpoint, as the two telephones have a metal frame and a glass back, as perfectly as barely any bezel about their screens.

In the Iphone X’s case the only authentic bezel is a smaller ‘notch’ at the best of the display screen, wherever you’ll discover the front-facing digital camera and sensors. The Samsung Galaxy S8 is not rather as no cost of muddle, with a slender strip higher than and under the screen, but there’s continue to little other than the display screen on the front.

The largest change when viewing the telephones front-on although is that the Samsung Galaxy S8’s display screen curves about the edges, whilst the Iphone X’s doesn’t.

From the back the two telephones are quite basic-searching, with the most important element remaining a solitary-lens digital camera and fingerprint scanner in the Galaxy S8’s case, and a dual-lens digital camera in the Iphone X’s, with the two telephones also sporting business logos on the rear.

The two telephones are a lot more long lasting than they could possibly glance, as the Galaxy S8 is IP68-certified, which means it can be submerged in up to 1.5 meters of drinking water for up to 30 minutes, whilst the Iphone X is seemingly drinking water- and dust-resistant to a ‘microscopic’ degree.

Perhaps the most clear visual change although is the colors you can get these two telephones in. The Samsung Galaxy S8 is offered in Midnight Black, Orchid Gray, Arctic Silver, Coral Blue and Maple Gold (although not all shades are offered almost everywhere), whilst the Iphone X is launching in just House Gray and Silver.

Iphone X vs Samsung Galaxy S8 display screen

The two the Iphone X and Samsung Galaxy S8 have 5.8-inch OLED screens, and the two also guidance HDR written content and fill almost the entire front of the mobile phone, so there’s a good deal of similarity there, but there are a lot of differences too, the most quickly clear remaining the reality that the S8’s is curved, whilst the Iphone X’s is flat.

They are also unique resolutions, with the Iphone X coming in at 2436 x 1125 for 458 pixels for every inch, whilst the Samsung Galaxy S8’s screen is 1440 x 2960 for 570 pixels for every inch, so Samsung’s mobile phone is better-resolution and sharper.

But the Iphone X has a Real Tone display screen, which adjusts the white stability to match your setting.

Other differences incorporate the approaches you can interact with their screens. The Iphone X has 3D Touch, which lets you display screen unique menus or interact with apps in unique approaches dependent on no matter whether you use a light or major tap. It also has gesture controls in put of the property button.

The Samsung Galaxy S8 in the meantime lets you swipe across the curved edges to convey up menus and shortcuts to apps, contacts or any quantity of other points you could possibly want speedy accessibility to.

Iphone X vs Samsung Galaxy S8 OS and electrical power

The Iphone makes use of Apple’s manufacturer-new A11 Bionic chipset. It is a six-core a person and by much Apple’s quickest mobile chipset still. There is no term still on how considerably RAM the Iphone X has, but rumors pegged it at 3GB.

The Samsung Galaxy S8 in the meantime has an octa-core chipset (a Snapdragon 835 in the US or an Exynos 8895 elsewhere) and 4GB of RAM.

Although individuals numbers could possibly seem even bigger, Apple’s telephones by no means fall short to impress from a electrical power standpoint, so we’re self-confident the Iphone X will give the S8 a operate for its income. We’ll let you know accurately how highly effective it seems as soon as we have experienced some time with it.

Although the Galaxy S8 is really highly effective and the Iphone X almost undoubtedly is too, a person essential change involving them is the amount of money of storage they have. For the Iphone 8 you can decide on involving a 64GB and 256GB.

For the Samsung Galaxy S8 there’s only a 64GB sizing, but you also get a microSD card slot with guidance for playing cards of up to 256GB, which the Iphone X doesn’t have.

And of course, the two telephones also have unique working units. The Iphone X runs iOS 11, whilst the Samsung Galaxy S8 runs Android Nougat.

The two are really polished, modern day mobile working units and the two telephones are possible to get up-to-date to new OS versions – although the Iphone X will possible get them on day a person, whilst the S8 will have to hold out, as it’s at present doing for Android Oreo.

Iphone X vs Samsung Galaxy S8 digital camera and battery

The Iphone X has a 12MP dual-lens digital camera, like the Iphone 7 Furthermore, even though not accurately like it, as Apple’s new digital camera has a several new competencies.

As perfectly as remaining usable to produce a bokeh effect by blurring the background of pictures, the Iphone X’s digital camera also has optical impression stabilization on the two lenses, to help hold your pictures continuous and in target.

Movie has also been upgraded, with 4K movie at ready to be shot at up to 60fps and 1080p slo-mo movie at 240fps.

Additional considerably although, it also sports augmented reality (AR) capabilities opening up a globe of new possibilities in apps, from viewing constellations occur to lifestyle in front of you to taking part in AR video games on your desk.

Close to the front you can find a 7MP digital camera, which also has the capability to use depth of area effects. And it incorporates a 3D facial area scanner, so you can unlock your mobile phone just by searching at it. This is supposedly really innovative, as it should really be ready to understand you even if you transform your hair or have on a hat, still won’t be fooled by a picture.

The Samsung Galaxy S8 just has a solitary lens 12MP digital camera on the back, but it too incorporates optical impression stabilization and can acquire wonderful, detailed pictures, served by its substantial f/1.7 aperture, which signifies a lot more light can get in than on quite a few smartphone cameras. 4K movie is capped at 30fps and 1080p at 60fps, but there’s also a able 8MP front-facing digital camera.

And it has a facial area scanner of its have, although it’s less innovative than Apple’s acquire, as it only scans a 2D impression of your facial area.

Apple hasn’t unveiled the Iphone X’s battery sizing, but has reported it will very last for 2 hours more time than the Iphone 7. It also supports wi-fi charging, which is a initially for an Apple mobile phone.

The Samsung Galaxy S8 has a 3,000mAh battery and that too supports wi-fi charging, as perfectly as fast charging. In our exams, we located it to easily very last a day or a lot more of moderate use involving prices, but like so quite a few other telephones you’ll likely need to have to plug it in when you go to mattress.

Iphone X vs Samsung Galaxy S8 cost

The Iphone X commences at $999/£999/AU$1,579 for the 64GB model and will also be offered in a 256GB sizing for $1,149/£1,149/AU$1,829.

That is a good deal of income. Even a lot more in reality than the Samsung Galaxy S8, which expenditures $725/£639/AU$1,199, although can be located for less if you store about.


These two behemoths are a lot more related than you could possibly hope, as the two the Iphone X and the Samsung Galaxy S8 have a 5.8-inch screen, a glass back, drinking water resistance, wi-fi charging and a lot of electrical power.

But there are continue to a lot of differences. The Iphone X is flat whilst the Galaxy S8 is curved, the Iphone X has a dual-lens digital camera whilst the Galaxy S8’s is a solitary lens a person, the Iphone X has a lot more storage but no microSD card slot, and the Iphone X runs iOS, whilst the Samsung Galaxy S8 runs Android. And individuals are just the headline differences.

As for which is much better, perfectly, you’ll just have to hold out for our total Iphone X critique and the position it usually takes in our most effective telephones chart to discover that out.

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Can Apple’s most recent flagship defeat Samsung’s?

Apple’s Apple iphone 8 is established to be declared later nowadays and quickly we’ll be able to put it head-to-head with the Samsung Galaxy S8. So, if you are not sure if you should obtain the Apple iphone 8 or Samsung Galaxy S8, quickly all your questions will be answered.

With the Apple iphone 8 established to arrive this September, it is time to come to a decision which phone you will want to decide on up in the course of the heated holiday break period of time.

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Style

Apple’s Apple iphone 8 doesn’t have a concrete design just however, however dummy styles of the Apple iphone 8 have been circulating for situation brands to make the most of. Just one critical facet revealed in these leaks is an edge-to-edge display screen, a glass back, vertical camera array and no TouchID panel on the back as some rumours have instructed. It appears incredibly comparable to the Apple iphone 7 in conditions of in general condition, but with a much extra magnificent complete.

Samsung’s Galaxy S8, on the other hand, is a magnificent sandwich of glass and steel, curved edges and sumptuous design. It is curved-display screen and curved display screen corners make it a single of the most aesthetically pleasing and strikingly various smartphones on the marketplace. The rear-mounted fingerprint sensor may perhaps be in an incredibly uncomfortable posture when compared to other smartphones, but it does the position perfectly.

In conditions of pocket room, the Galaxy S8 comes in at 148.9 x 68.1 x 8mm and weighs 155g. Apple’s Apple iphone 8, definitely, doesn’t have any proportions to talk of as of however, but we can most likely count on it to be of a comparable size and excess weight to the Apple iphone 7.

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Display

In conditions of display screen, we count on the Apple iphone 8 to come outfitted with a curved-edge OLED display screen supplied by Samsung Display. Yes, that’s right, the exact individuals who make the screens for Samsung’s phones will be carrying out the exact for Apple. This should mean that each phones come out with fairly comparable displays.

The Galaxy S8 maintains Samsung’s status of manufacturing amazing phone displays. It characteristics Samsung’s signature Super AMOLED panel but now stretched to 5.8in many thanks to its unconventional 18:5.9 ratio. Due to the fact it is a 2K AMOLED display screen, Samsung packs in an spectacular 570ppi pixel density much too. It also has a excellent contrast ratio and comes with HDR help so the likes of Netflix and Amazon Video clip glimpse totally amazing.

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Hardware

As Apple’s large and fancy flagship phone, the Apple iphone 8 will effortlessly make improvements to upon what came with the Apple iphone 7. Nobody is familiar with what’s really going on beneath its glass and aluminium body, but likelihood are it contains the subsequent variation of Apple’s cell chip and then a comparable established of RAM and battery specs as former iPhones. The Apple iphone 7 employed Apple’s A10 processor, so it is very likely the Apple iphone 8 will have an A11 chip in it.

The Samsung Galaxy S8, however, is not so easy. It comes with both an Exynos 8895 or outfitted with Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 835 processor. Very last gen the Samsung Galaxy S8 overtook the Apple iphone 7 in conditions of ability, whilst not by much too substantially, so it is not much too astonishing to assume that the A11 chip will usurp Samsung’s S8 when it comes in September.

On the characteristics entrance, the Apple iphone 8 is explained to come with wi-fi charging and no property button on the entrance. Instead, it’ll contain a 3D Contact sensor beneath the display screen and an iris scanner for facial recognition login. Storage size is also unclear, but it is very likely to come in the exact 32GB, 128GB and 25GB configurations as right before. Samsung’s system, on the other hand, presently has wi-fi charging as common, has eliminated its property button and comes with 4GB RAM and 64GB of flash storage bare minimum – with place to broaden by way of microSD.

Apple’s Apple iphone 8 will launch with iOS 11 as common, and Samsung’s Galaxy S8 supports the most up-to-date variation of Android Nougat but will be out there to update to Android 8 “O” when it releases.

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Digicam

Apple’s Apple iphone 8 camera will, unquestionably, make improvements to what’s observed on the Apple iphone 7. Early leaked pictures of the Apple iphone 8 dummy phone display it with a vertical dual-camera arrangement alternatively of a horizontal a single observed on the Apple iphone 7 Additionally. In conditions of raw camera specs, count on Apple to equip the Apple iphone 8 with a thing akin to the dual-camera setup observed on the Apple iphone 7 Additionally.

Samsung’s Galaxy array of flagship phones did, at a single point, come with some of the greatest cameras in the small business. It is been usurped by some others considering that, but it is continue to effortlessly a single of the greatest cameras you can find in a smartphone right now. The Galaxy S8 comes with a 12-megapixel Dual Pixel rear camera and an 8-megapixel entrance-facing camera, Both equally come with optical impression stabilisation and autofocus. It even has a entrance-facing iris scanner to retain your phone safe and support just take a fantastic selfie.

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Cost

When it comes to value, it is a difficult struggle. Rumours have it that the Apple iphone 8 could expense approximately as substantially as $1,000 as it is a special edition to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Apple iphone. If that doesn’t come to go, then Apple’s phone will essentially be at a incredibly comparable value to Samsung’s considerably overpriced handset.

At present, the Samsung Galaxy S8 retails for £689 but is out there to obtain for about £580 by way of the likes of Amazon. For comparison, Apple’s Apple iphone 7 retails at £599 for a base model, which has half the storage size observed in the Galaxy S8. It is very likely the Apple iphone 8 will retail at the exact value if it has not been provided the restricted-edition pricing remedy.

Apple iphone 8 vs Samsung Galaxy S8: Verdict

As with all of these comparisons among two incredibly various phones and ecosystems – it all comes down to preference.

Likelihood are the Apple iphone 8 and the Galaxy S8 will be very comparable in conditions of ability, potential and complete. In all honesty, the decision you’re making here is not “do I want a Samsung Galaxy S8 or an Apple iphone 8?” it is, do I want to use iOS or Android? And that, my buddies, is a various matter completely.